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I want to talk about impending

threats to Christian counselors and I want to focus particularly on some of

the counseling ethics codes and focus on a specific area where I think we're facing

a major threat want to focus first of all on the American Counseling Association

in the American Counseling Association. Has in its ethical guidelines its

position on repairing a therapy or the broader term change

therapy in the guidelines it says this to refer a client to someone

who engages in change therapy or repaired of therapy in their view or their

terminology regarding same sex attractions communicates to the client that his or

her same sex attractions and behaviors are disordered and therefore

need to be change this the A.C.S. says contradicts the dictates of the two

thousand and five a CA code of ethics so we begin with that proposition the code

of ethics in the a CA also goes on to say that we find no

scientific evidence for published psychological peer reviewed journals

that conversion therapy is effective. Let me make sure we're on the same. Powerpoint page here is

the requirement for counselors. And this is a hypothetical that's given

in the code of ethics the counselor is presented with someone who is having

the same sex attractions they have not acted on the same sex attractions

they do not want to act on those same sex attractions and they do not believe that

they are homosexual that they are gay or **** they come to you as a counselor for

counseling this is what the A C. a code of ethics talks

about the requirement for a counselor in a situation like that any

professional It says that is engaging in such repaired of therapy or change

therapy must receive appropriate training in such treatment sounds reasonable you

need to have the training in the area of counseling but however the a CA goes

on to say there is no professional training condoned by the A.C.L.U. or other

prominent mental health associations so you start off with the proposition that

you need to have appropriate training which seems reasonable and then the AC

says but there is no such training so you know where this ultimately is

going in the counselor's the A.C.S. says stating that they can

offer conversion therapy or repaired of therapy must also offer

referrals to gay **** bisexual affirmative affirmative affirmation

firming counselors the code of ethics strongly suggests that ethical

professional counselors do not refer clients to someone who

engages in conversion therapy or if they do to proceed cautiously only

when they are certain that the referral counselor fully informs the client of

the unproven nature of the treatment and the potential risk and

take steps to minimize the harm so the A CA code of ethics is then moving

towards what the requirements for councillors are informed consent and obviously I think all of

us in this area where. I agree that counselors need to have

an informed consent but the mandatory informed consent of the counselors

is something that is quite startling first of all the consent needs to say that

any professional that's engaging in such treatment needs to have the training there

however is no training the counseling requirements that counselors need to

have as far as this an informed consent. Is that let me get to this Power Point. That first of all the therapy or the

treatment the counseling that I am about to provide or that some other counselor

will provide upon my referral assumes that same sex attractions and

behavior are mentally disordered that's part of the are informed

consent under the A C. code of ethics so that you don't

violate one of those ethical codes. The next thing however that the counselor

must provide is that this belief the very fact that I will counsel

you that change is possible or that someone else may counsel you to

whom I refer that change is possible counter addicts the position held by

the American Council in association and other health and by a medical professional

organizations the third point and that is required of informed consent so

as not to violate the ethical code is that conversion therapy as

a practice is a religious and not a psychologically based practice. The next criteria is that there

is no training offered or condoned in this area and

the next point is that research does not support conversion therapy as

an effective treatment modality and then another is that there is potential

harm when clients participate in conversion therapy so

to kind of recap this and there's one more I'll get to that the

therapy that I'm going to offer or that I'm going to refer you to assumes that

you're disordered but that believe count. Dix the very licensing code if

you're licensed under the A.C.L.U. and one of half of the states in

the country that contradicts the licensing of which I'm practicing under or the

licensing and the positions of every other mental health association by the way this

particular counseling is religious and it's not psychologically based and

there's no training offered Forte there's no research that shows that

it's effective and by the way you might actually be harmed by this in fact

treatment or this counseling and finally the last part of this is that there are

treatments indorsed by the Association for gay **** and bisexual issues in counseling

these treatments are gay affirmative and help a client reconcile his or her same

sex attractions with religious beliefs so after all of what I just said that there's

no training that it's against my licensing that in fact it could actually harm you

there's another organisation I can refer you to that actually will affirm and

better help your situation if you do not follow that particular informed consent

and if you're licensed in the state under the AC a code of ethics and

you either engage in that counseling or you're first someone who will engage in

that counseling for someone who comes to you who is having same sex attractions but

they don't want to act on and have not acted on the same sex attractions

and they do not believe that they're gay or **** then if you don't follow

that informed consent you will be found in violation of the CA code of

ethics Now that is startling but it's even more startling as to how many

states actually have adopted the A C. code of ethics Alaska Arkansas Arizona. The District of Columbia Idaho Illinois

Louisiana Massachusetts Mississippi Nebraska North Carolina North Dakota

South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Utah West Virginia and

Wyoming beyond those there are additional states that have adopted

parts of the code of ethics Colorado. No the board refers licensees to the A C. A for advice and ethical guidelines and

Ohio the board there subscribes to the code of ethics and practice standards

for counselors promulgated by the CIA. Which shall be used as AIDS in

resolving ambiguous situations which may arise in the interpretation

of the rules of professional ethics and conduct so there are a guideline but

they're not mandatory. In other words half of the states

including the District of Columbia have adopted the A C. a code of ethics. If you're in one of those states and

licensed under the A C. code of ethics that's the informed

consent you need to comply with. The National Association of Social Workers

position on change therapy says that such treatment potentially can

lead to severe emotional damage and transformational ministries ministries

that ultimately try to assist those with same sex attraction are fueled by

stigmatization of Lesbians and Gays. The American Psychological Association

the A.P.A. which as you know declassified

homosexuality from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual in one thousand

nine hundred seventy three the position that it has on change their

plea is like these other organizations the American Psychological Association

opposes any psychological treatment such as quote repaired or close quote or

quote conversion close quote therapy. The American Association of for

Marriage and Family Therapist it has a position on

change or repaired of therapy as well. And its position is that such treatment

potentially can lead to severe emotional disorder or severe damage that same sex

attraction first of all is not a mental disorder and that we do not believe

according to the American Association for marriage and family therapy

that sexual orientation in and of itself requires treatment so

there's a written over. Isn't a council someone who comes to you

having same sex attractions even though they don't want to act on it have not

act on it there's no reason to counsel them because there's no problem

according to this organization. Same sex orientation is a normal variant

of human sexuality that takes a variety of forms and expression. There's a number of other efforts besides

what's happening in the counseling organizations and we've touched on the

major organizations but there's others but across the board the major organizations

have very similar opinions with regards to what oftentimes is referred

to as repaired of therapy or the broader term of change therapy. Legislative efforts have been underway in

addition to these organizations that we talked about because each one of these

organizations are actually involved in legislative policymaking that's the reason

why the American Council in association has had its ethical code adopted in

half of the states in the country one such legislative effort is one

that is exceptionally concerning and it is an area in which Liberty Council

where I service chair are we are having a team of attorneys look at right now

with regards to this particular piece of legislation if indeed it passes

it will be the first such kind of its nature in the country its California

Senate bill eleven seventy two and it being a Ends changed their opinion or repaired of therapy in that

terminology for minors so if you are a minor not of age eighteen

you are not able to have this kind of treatment so as a parent even if you

wanted to take your son or daughter to. Counsel or because they're having same sex

attractions and they're struggling with the issues involved in same sex

attractions this particular legislation would prohibit you as a parent from

giving that kind of treatment to a minor. And in fact if your minor son or daughter

is in counseling at this moment and if this bill were to pass it would

ultimately affect your rights as a parent to continue that counseling even though

that counseling is having a therapeutic effect for your son or daughter State

Senator Ted Lieu who is one of the people pushing this particular bill was quoted

recently as stating the following quote The attack on parental rights is exactly

the whole point of the bill because we don't want to let parents harm

their children preventative therapy hurts children so this bill allows us to

stop parents from hurting their children. That is a startling statement people have

alleged that this particular bill is an attack on parental rights it's not only

an attack on printer rights it's an attack on the minors who are receiving counseling

or who want to receive counseling and clearly it is an attack on counselors

themself because this bill would ultimately make it illegal to engage

in this kind of therapy I don't know if there's any other kind of therapy that

has ever faced this kind of scrutiny or certainly this kind of attempt to

literally literally criminalize but that's in fact what's happening in California it

is startling however that a state senator would come out and admit that the purpose

of this bill is to take away the rights of parents to have counseling or

therapy for their own minor children we are talking to counselors in California

who actually among many other other counseling practices do engage in change

their opinion client directed counseling when a client comes into their office

the counselor is asked by that client for certain kinds of therapy certain

kinds of therapeutic intervention and shouldn't the client be able to ask for

that shouldn't a client be able to have the freedom to be able

to ask that particular counselor for some kind of assistance. Yet in California if this bill

passes that would be illegal. And this would also mostly criminalize

the very act of counseling startling indeed the constitutional implications

of this are significant because for example you could have gay

affirming counseling you could have anything positive to say

about same sex attractions you could encourage someone that their same

sex attractions are normal variant and there's nothing to be concerned about even

though the client is struggling with that and has issues that the client

needs to be resolved but on the other hand if you referred or

if you ultimately engaged in counseling based upon the client's own interest

in being able to resolve this and not wanting to act upon these same sex

attractions then that would be illegal so only one viewpoint of this particular

very important subject matter would be criminalized clearly this

would be unconstitutional but yet in fact this is what's happening

in the state of California if it passes it will have

a ripple effect in California for other councillors and possibly even

around the country with other states wanting to come on board to do

something very similar to the A.P.A. in addition to the legislative

actions in California the A.P.A. task force came out with a report and

it said that same sex attractions or same sex sexual attractions behavior

in orientations per se are normal and positive variance of human sexuality and recommended that licensed mental health

professional support adolescents ages in that particular task force of twelve

through eighteen to explore or have exploration of identity

by accepting homosexuality and bisexuality as normal and positive

variance of human sexual orientation. In addition to the legal

threats that we see happen. In California and all of these

counseling organizations focusing on moving to the legislative policy arena

totally restrict this area of counseling there's legal threats as well and later

in this program tonight and the rest of the day you will also hear more specific

information about these legal threats so I won't dwell too much on that but

I want to focus on two brief cases involving counseling students

these are students who wanted to pursue graduate counseling courses one in Augusta

State University Jennifer Keaton and the other in Eastern Michigan

University Julie award both of these individuals which you'll learn about later

in this presentation were individuals who were pursuing their graduate

programs in counseling and they were alternately individuals who for

their religious beliefs did not accept homosexuality as a normal

part of human behavior and they were ultimately told that if

they did not accept or pursue and participate in various kinds

of gay affirming programs or even assignments that they would not be

able to complete their graduate training lawsuits have ensued and you'll hear about

the results of those but these individuals alternately have been precluded

by some of these institutions and they're not going to be the last students

that ultimately will be precluded by these institutions because of these kinds

of attempts to stop this area of counseling clearly this particular area of

counseling is a significant area of threat to Christian counselors let me talk just

briefly as I conclude about the roadmap. I think we're at a situation in

history with regards to Christian counselors were Christian counselors

are literally the tip of the iceberg with respect to same sex attractions and

counseling and certainly there is a there is a necessity that

counselors address the religious and spiritual components of those

clients that counsel when. Counsel with them what about a client who

has a significant religious conviction with respect to homosexuality that

it is not a positive variant that they're experiencing same sex attractions

but they don't want to act on them and they haven't and they want them all

to only resolve those issues and a Christian counselor wants to be able to

engage in therapy to that client who's actually asking for this intervention

Christian counselors are literally facing the very tip of the spear where by virtue

of merely counseling that individual or referring that individual to someone else

for counseling that that will be punished either by an ethical code depending upon

what state and what licensing code you are licensed under or if California has

its way in the legislative arena and that passes through legislation

I think is councillors and certainly as the American Association of

Christian counselors being the largest Christian counseling organization

in the world I think it's time for counselors to band together to

understand that that threat is real and to band together to do something

about it the roadmap ahead counselors I believe must be able to

address the client's spiritual needs there is a relationship in the medical

arena between spirituality and morbidity and mortality rates the greater

the spirituality the better you have on these other mobility and mortality rates

and that in fact doctors from a medical person perspective outside of counseling

often times realize and there are studies that show that this relationship

clearly exist if someone has a strong spiritual foundation the more likely

that they will have a better recovery as opposed to somebody who has no spiritual

or a lower spiritual foundation it clearly is documented within the medical

literature within counseling I think it's the same way in Christian counselors

have the right have the duty I believe to recognize that in the client that he or she is counseling to either address it

specifically or to refer to someone who. Who is better capable

to address that issue this area is not one of those

areas that we need to X. out this is an area for

client counselors and it's an area for clients to be able to have the counseling

that he or she needs we need to also educate the public about the necessity

of working with the whole person and not just part of the person meaning the

spiritual components of these individuals that come into your office we also need

to educate about the importance of client directed counseling that clients clearly

have the right to have this counseling end of this would be unprecedented for

a client and for a counselor to have only this one area of counseling

off limits and I think finally and this is I think the beauty of the American

Association of Christian counselors. And the organization that it

has amassed over the years is that we need to organize and

we need to oppose legislative efforts to restrict Christian counselors we

need to do that on the state level and when to do that if necessary in the

nation's capital we also need to be doing that with the various ethical codes

that are out there that are already in existence with the various psychological

organisations clearly A.C.C. is in the best position to be able to

organize Christian counsellors across a wide variety of experience and expertise

to band together because this is such a time if we don't speak up now then we'll

have to forever hold our peace I encourage you to get involved I encourage you

to learn more about this issue and I encourage you to join with other

counselors in your area and with A.C.C. because this is a critical and impending

and real threat to Christian counsellors.

Considering Ethics and the Faith Factor – Dr. Tim Clinton

So George let me start with you just

a quick synopsis of your presentation. Well I'd like to say that I agree with

maps point that we are at a historic crossroads really a crossroads

in the right to practice and bring our faith into our work as

counselors as caregivers as pastors even. And I think from now on we need to

embrace the idea that it would be just as important to defend our

right to practice as it will be to practice well to practice in

the best way we can it's Christians. That's where the. Well I talked about Christian counseling

and the evidence that shows that if you. Practice a Christian oriented counseling

and you match it well to the client then the evidence supports that it will

be at least as effective as a similar secular therapy and it will probably

have better spiritual effects. To Jeremy to disco. In than the most important

point I think to take away from my discussion is that Christians are under

attack within the profession whether they are trying to enter it or retain lace I'm sure that they are already

have and it's incumbent upon them at this time this critical time to understand what

their rights are in ultimately be willing to stand up to defend them because

of this generation doesn't do that the next generation of Christian

councils will have less or no rights. TO TALK TO SCHOOL East's. Talk about was how important it was to

understand that we must be spiritually competent to provide great care

to the clients that come into our practices wrestling with

a variety of mental health issues and disorders and that the language

that actually already exist. Out there in a number of secular

professional entities like A.P.A. CA am F T even regulatory boards already give us a platform on which

we can stand in advocate for our clients faith based values and

advocate for this whole issue and it's not so much about just choosing

one value over another whether it's religion or ethnicity or culture

a variety of things what it is is about supporting it advocating a client's right

to self-determination and honoring and respecting their value system as well

as making sure that we and that we as. Professionals hold the profession

accountable to addressing and being competent to deliver care

when it comes to spirituality. And state for I talked about the imminent

threats to Christian councilors in one specific area and there are many

threats in other areas as well my focus was with regards to counseling someone

with same sex attractions in the threats come from several different fronts that

come from the professional Council in associations that come from the ethical

codes of those states that have adopted the American Council in association

a code of ethics they are coming from the legislative arena for example most

frequently in recently in California and they're coming from the legal

arena as well and consequently counselors need to understand those

threats not to cower to those threats but ultimately rise up and challenge and

ultimately move forward because I think what's at stake is the right

of Christian counselors to counsel and ultimately have clients in self directed

counseling that need that spiritual component to be addressed and so I think

those issues are at stake and I think it's time that we educate ourselves about that

and we mobilize and do something to make sure that we continue to have the right to

counsel and I don't know if any of you at some general questions you want to ask

each other for a moment right before. Matt jumps into the stack

of questions of come in but tonight really isn't about taking on

an issue the issue of homosexuality tonight our focus was the whole issue of

spirituality and faith for a moment and talking about how significant is

faith to therapeutic outcomes and then obviously when there is a conflict

therapeutically what do we do. Reverse the situation either way but

how do we go about that what is the preferred professional

ethic and how can we be responsible in conducting ourselves as professionals

one question I had I want to direct over to Dr Worthington was as you've

looked through the research on outcomes related to let's say religion spirituality

faith issues and mental health are you encouraged I mean specifically in

Christian counseling Are you encouraged or is there is such a you

know just such scant work that it's not really substantive and

something that we can't stand on. I'm encouraged then again I

kind of positive psychology. I mean easily encouraged. But you know I think that there is

a firm foundation of research and there's research basically showing

that faith matters to people's physical mental health relationships and

spirituality and also there's a body of research that

says that Christian counseling works and it produces happy clients too

you know it doesn't just work so I am I'm encouraged I think I mean

courage because of the evidence base not just because I happen to

be a real positive got a. Great anyone else I would just add

to would Dr Worthington saying. It is as Christian professionals

whether we're Akam additions or clinicians we have to understand

the rules of engagement and we can't just say well I believe the Bible

and therefore I know faith works and it's important which we all believe and

it's true but we have to be willing and able to effectively engage the profession

at the level that they can relate to and if that's research that's competent

well designed I'm confident and encourage that the results will support

what we already know to be truth but we have to go out and demonstrate

it to maybe a somewhat disbelieving professional world out there so some may

be a little bit confused on the issue of where they practice or how as how

they practice as a professional or maybe a lake counselor a pastor or

a chaplain and the context is a lot to do with what we're

talking about tonight too as professionals meaning you're licensed by the state in a

various One of the mill health disciplines you are regulated by the state

you are governed by the code of ethics that's out there and

so you've got some challenges now as we look at all that what we're

trying to do is move so move our way through this maze if you will where

there's a lot of controversy going on and we're just trying to give language and

conversation to this sort of back to you Matt Well Dr Klein We

have a lot of questions already we've got more coming they're going to direct

them all to Dr we're going to direct. Everyone does have

a positive time together. But you can e-mail your questions

the staff here in A.C.C. will bring them up here and

we'll try to get through as many of those as possible let me start off with

this general question I'll throw it out to the panel and I want to come

back with a specific question on the religious aspect of counseling but

we are seen some questions c